Domain name scam nostalgia

I just received this:

Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:25:40 +0800 (CST)
From: "karl.kang"
To: "dan"
Subject: About the domain names of dansdata

Dear sir,
We are SQL Network Information Technology Co., Ltd, a domain name register organization in China.We have something urgent need to confirm with your company. Because we formally received an application from a company named Sai Bo (China) Investment company.They are applying to register and so on as internet brand name"dansdata"and CN domain name"dansdata.cn /.com.cn /.net.cn /.org.cn" through us.Now we are in charge of this matter .In order to keep other party from using these domain names,hope to get your confirmation about these domain names¡¯registration asap.
Please let someone in your company who is responsible for information management contact us as soon as possible.

Karl.Kang

Tel: +86-21-51750304
Fax: +86-21-51750301
Email: Karl.kang@govnic.org.cn Karl@govnic.org.cn
Web: www.govnic.org.cn

SQL Network Information Technology Co., Ltd
Room A601, Block 2,ShanghaiWithub White-cat Science Park No.641 TianshanRoad ,Shanghai,China
2007-06-20

This message would have been entertaining if all it did was alert me to the fact that there exists in China a place called "Shanghai Withub White-Cat Science Park", but it also provided some wonderful nostalgia.

There is, of course, very probably no actual company trying to register dansdata.cn. Even if there were, I wouldn't care; I don't need to cover every possible variation of my domain name, since everybody knows where Dan's Data is already and dansdata.cn wouldn't fool anybody unless it copied all of my content. Which you could do just as easily with some other domain.

This is a scam, and an old and hoary one. The FTC's been shutting down similar scammers in the States since at least 2001. In the olden days, they at least sent you a paper invoice; what's up with this cheapskate e-mail crap?

Even if I did want to register .cn names, there are plenty of places to do that which're certain to be better than the awfully official-sounding "SQL Network Information Technology" govnic.org.cn site. I note that govnic.org.cn doesn't even tell you what it'll cost to register a domain. The going rate for non-Chinese is actually less than $US30 for a year - and Chinese citizens can apparently register domains for one yuan!

The SQL Etcetera site is also a rich fount of Chinglish, including some magnificently incomprehensible press releases.

The only other mention I can find for SQL on the Web (this SQL, not the real SQL) is on this Indonesian site, where they apparently filled out the Web complaint form with a copy of the come-on they sent to me.

Update: Here's a mention of them from a few years ago, when they were calling themselves "Shanghai Squile Network Information & Technology Co., Ltd".

"Squile"?

WTF?

I'd think about this more, but it's making my brain hurt.

Posted in Scams, Spam. 9 Comments »

9 Responses to “Domain name scam nostalgia”

  1. danielbowen Says:

    Paper invoice scams still happen. I get these (and similar) regularly: http://www.geekrant.org/2005/04/12/domain-registry-of-america-scam/

  2. sfmelco Says:

    This seems to be an active group.

    Dear sir, We are Shanghai IDC Network Information Technology Co., Ltd, a domain name register organization in China.We have something urgent need to confirm with your company. Because we formally received an application from a company named Sai Bo (China) Investment company.They are applying to register and so on as internet brand name"melcomart"and CN domain name"melcomart.cn /.com.cn /.net.cn /.org.cn" through us.Now we are in charge of this matter .In order to keep other party from using these domain names,hope to get your confirmation about these domain names’registration asap. Please let someone in your company who is responsible for information management contact us as soon as possible. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl.Kang Tel: +86-21-51750302 Fax: +86-21-51750301 Email: karl.kang@govidc.org.cn Web: http://www.govidc.org.cn Shanghai IDC Network Information & Technology Co.,Ltd Room A601, Block 2,ShanghaiWithub White-cat Science Park No.641 TianshanRoad ,Shanghai,China 2007-07-04

    Looks like China may even own our trade names, eventually.

  3. sally Says:

    I just received a similar e-mail about my domain name.

  4. sally Says:

    I have a question-can someone tell me if this is a scam?

  5. Markkkk Says:

    And another. Added in its entirety for the sake of Google searches. (apart from actual domain censored)...

    --
    Dear:

    We are Shanghai IDC Network Information & Technology Co.,Ltd,which is the domain name register center in China.We have something need to confirm with you.
    We received an application formally, one company named Saibo Co.,Ltd applies for

    Domain Name:xxxxxx.cn/.com.cn/.net.cn/.org.cn/.tw/.hk/.biz/.info
    Internet Brand:xxxxxx

    These days we are dealing with it, hope to get the affirmation of your company because that may relate to your intellectual property on internet. Now we have not finished the registration of Saibo company yet,in order to deal with this issue better, please let someone who is responsible for trademark or domain name contact me as soon as possible.

    Awaiting your reply!

    Mark

    Check Domain Name Commissioner.
    Oversea Internet Domains Accredited Registry
    Shanghai IDC Network Information&Technology Co., Ltd
    Tel: +(86)21-51750302 | Fax: +(86)21-51750301
    Web: http://www.govidc.org.cn | Email: mark@govidc.org.cn markqin2008@gmail.com
    --

  6. usrhlp Says:

    Here is another!
    -------------------------

    Dear CEO,

    We are the domain name registration organization in China, which mainly deal with international company's in china. We have something important need to confirm with your company.
    On the Nov.13, 2007, we received an application formally. One company named "Secondment International Holdings Ltd" wanted to register following Domain names:
    cisco.cn
    cisco.com.cn
    cisco.net.cn
    cisco.org.cn
    cisco.com.hk
    cisco.hk
    cisco.cc
    cisco.tw
    cisco.com.tw
    Internet brand keyword:
    cisco
    through our body.

    After our initial examination, we found that the keywords and domain names applied for registration are asa same s your company's name and trademark. These days we are dealing with it. If you do not know this company, we doubt that they have other aims to buy these domain names. Now we have not finished the registration of Secondment company yet, in order to deal with this issue better, Please contact us by telephone or email as soon as possible.

    Best Regards,

    Tony Ji

  7. Daniel Rutter Says:

    This last example is of course particularly stupid, partly because I'm just going to go out on a limb and guess that "usrhlp" is not actually in charge of buying domain names for Cisco, but mainly because most of the listed domain names already belong to Cisco.

    (Oh, and "Internet brand keyword" is a string which appears to only exist because of these scam mails.)

  8. Daniel Rutter Says:

    And another one! It's amazing that "dansdata.cn" is in such great demand!

    Dear Daniel Rutter,
    This is Beijing Erimat Network Information Technology Co., Ltd, domain name registrant in China. A formal application dated on May 5th from one company called Guangyuan Investment (China) Co., Ltd requested "dansdata" as their Chinese top-level domain name(.cn/.hk.tw) and internet keyword. Due to the possibility of involving your company name or trade mark, we bring this into your attention immediately in view of your priority and IPR according to the registration procedure. Please contact us for protective prior registration of those domains or learning more about it.

    Kind Regards
    Susan Peng
    Tel: +86-10-62667420 (ext.608)
    Fax: +86-10-62667460
    Email: susan.peng@erimat.cn
    Beijing Erimat Network Information Technology Co., Ltd
    Website: http://www.erimat.cn

    (See also "Beijing Onvis Network Information Technology Co.,Ltd".)

  9. Daniel Rutter Says:

    And here's another one!

    From: Linda@asiadomainnameregistrar.com
    Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:19:18 +0800
    To: dan@dansdata.com
    Subject: Notice of "dansdata".asia Domain Name

    Dear Manager,

    We received a formal application on intending to register "dansdata" as their domain name and Internet brand in China and also in Asia from an investment company on Oct.14th,2008. During our audit period, we find that this Investment company has no trade mark, brand or patent. As a professional institution of domain name registration, we have reasons to suspect this investment company to be a domain name grabber. Therefore, we need your confirmation on two points as follows.
    First of all, whether this investment company is your business partner or distributor in China?
    Secondly, whether you also need these domain names? (According to the rules of domain name registration, the investment company will be entitled to obtain a domain name but not need the permission from the original trademark owner.)
    If you are not in charge of this issue, please transfer this email to the right department.
    This is a letter for confirmation. If the mentioned third party is your business partner or distributor in China or in Asia, please DO NOT reply. We will automatically think that this application was from your business partner after our audit period.

    Best regards

    Linda

    Asia Domain Name Registrar
    TEL : 86-21-312 609 71
    FAX : 86-21-312 609 72
    Email: Linda@asiadomainnameregistrar.com
    Web: http://www.domainorg.net.cn

    2008-09-04

    Linda@asiadomainnameregistrar.com

    (Note that "www.domainorg.net.cn" is not actually the company responsible for the weird .asia sponsored TLD; that'd be The DotAsia Organisation.)


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